Agenda and minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee (4) - Thursday 26th October, 2023 10.00 am

Venue: Rooms 18.01 - 18.03 - 18th Floor, 64 Victoria Street, London, SW1E 6QP. View directions

Contact: Jack Robinson-Young, Committee and Councillor Co-ordinator  Email:  jrobinsonyoung@westminster.gov.uk

Media

Items
No. Item

1.

Membership

To report any changes to the membership.

Minutes:

1.1           It was noted that Councillor Caplan had substituted for Councillor Hyams.

 

1.2           Councillor Hyams sent her apologises.

2.

Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations by Members and Officers of the existence and nature of any pecuniary interests or any other significant interest in matters on this agenda.

Minutes:

2.1       There were no declarations of interest.

1.

Fora Space, 14 Bird Street, W1U 1BU pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Ward
CIA*
SCZ
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Site Name & Address

Application
Type

Licensing Reference No.

West End

 

* None

 

** None

 

Fora Space

14 Bird Street

W1U 1BU

 

 

New Premises Licence

23/04507/LIPN

*Cumulative Impact Area
** Special Consideration Zone

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

WESTMINSTER CITY COUNCIL LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE NO. 4

(“The Committee”)

 

Thursday 26 October 2023

 

          

Membership:           Councillor Angela Piddock (Chair),

Councillor Iman Less

Councillor Melvyn Caplan

 

 

Others present:       Alun Thomas (Solicitor, Thomas and Thomas), Laura Maloney (for the Applicant)

Maxwell Koduah (Environmental Health Service - EHS)

Margaret Parnham (Resident Manager Phoenix Building) for Lorraine Le Mare.

Alan Porter

 

 

Application for a New Premises Licence for Fora Space, 14 Bird Street, London, W1U 1BU - 23/04507/LIPN.

 

                                            Full Decision

Premises: 

 

Fora Space

14 Bird Street

London

W1U 1BU

 

Applicant

 

Fora Space Limited

 

Ward

 

West End

 

Summary of Application

 

This is an application for a new premises licence under the Licensing Act 2003 (“The Act”).  The premises is an office building operated by Fora Space Limited (part of The Office Group), who provide flexible workspace in central locations, with individual offices, meeting rooms, co-working, lounge and café facilities.

 

These premises are not open to general members of the public.

 

Cumulative Impact Zone.

 

None

 

Special Consideration Zone:

 

None

 

There is a resident count of 101

 

Application

 

To Permit:

 

Late Night Refreshment (Indoors)

Monday to Thursday 23.00 to 23.30

Fridays and Saturdays 23.00 to 00.00

 

Sale of Alcohol

Monday to Thursday 10.00 to 23.30

Fridays and Saturdays 10.00 to 00.00

Sundays 11:00 to 22.30

 

Recorded Music (Indoor)

Monday to Thursday 10.00 to 23.30

Fridays and Saturdays 10.00 to 00.00

Sundays 11:00 to 22.30

 

Films (Indoor)

Monday to Thursday 10.00 to 23.30

Fridays and Saturdays 10.00 to 00.00

Sundays 11:00 to 22.30

 

Opening Times

Monday to Sunday 00:00 to 00:00

 

 

Representations Received

 

·       Maxwell Koduah – Environmental Health Services (EHS)

·       Elizabeth Virgo – Paddington Waterways and Maida Vale Society

·       Residents x 24

 

Issues raised by Objectors.

 

The EHO have concerns that as presented, the application would have the likely effect of causing an increase in Public Nuisance and may affect Public Safety within the area.

 

The residents state that The Phoenix contains 60+ residential units, and whatever happens in that street by way of noise, smells, traffic has a direct and immediate impact on the quality of life of a great number of residents.

 

Until approx. two years the property was simply an office block.

 

Since Fora opened the workspace in its new guise the increased disturbance in Bird Street has been noticeable. We have a marked increase in deliveries and the reversing vehicles do cause noise. Those using the workspace come out onto Bird Street to smoke during breaks. Smoke already gets into our living space through open windows as does the noise from those assembling outside.

 

Now, a licence is sought so that films may be shown, alcohol supplied, music played until well into the night. Clearly, this is a massive change in the use of this space which does not fit well in a quiet residential street. All of the disturbance we already have to tolerate will inevitably increase and be extended into the night time.

 

Policy Considerations

 

Policy HRS 1 states:

 

B. Applications for hours outside the core hours set out in Clause C  ...  view the full minutes text for item 1.

2.

Chicken Cottage, 135 Praed Street, W2 1RL pdf icon PDF 3 MB

Ward
CIA*
SCZ
**

Site Name & Address

Application
Type

Licensing Reference No.

Hyde Park

 

* None

 

** None

 

Chicken Cottage

135 Praed Street

W2 1RL

 

Premises Licence Variation

23/01819/LIPV

*Cumulative Impact Area
** Special Consideration Zone

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

WESTMINSTER CITY COUNCIL LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE NO. 4

(“The Committee”)

 

Thursday 26 October 2023

 

          

Membership:           Councillor Angela Piddock (Chair),

Councillor Iman Less

Councillor Melvyn Caplan

 

 

Others present:       Guy Ladenburg (Counsel for the Applicant),

Sayed Hasson (The Applicant) – present online

Sally Fabbricatore (Environmental Health Service - EHS)

Richard Brown (Licensing Advice Project Citizens Advice Westminster) on behalf of:

 

1)    HPEA– Susie Burbridge.

2)    PWMVS

3)    SEBRA – John Zamit

 

Application for a variation of a variation of a Premises Licence for Chicken Cottage, 135 Praed Street, W2 1RL – 23/01819/LIPV

 

                                            Full Decision

Premises: 

 

Chicken Cottage,

135 Praed Street,

London

W2 1RL

 

Applicant

 

Hasan Syed

 

Ward

 

Hyde Park

 

Summary of Application

 

This is an application for a variation of a premises licence under the Licensing Act 2003 (“The Act”).  This variation application seeks to permit the following:

 

To vary the existing premises licence to:-

 

1) Remove the following two conditions:-

 

16. There shall be no sales of hot food or hot drink for consumption off the premises after 00:00; and

 

17. There shall be no home delivery service of any kind from the premises.

 

2) Include model condition 98 to promote the licensing objectives:-

 

MC98 Delivery drivers shall be given clear, written instructions to use their vehicles in a responsible manner so as not to cause a nuisance to any residents or generally outside the license premises;

 

1.     not to leave engines running when the vehicles are parked;

 

2.     not to obstruct the highway.

 

3) Licensable activities, hours and layout - No changes

 

The premises have had the benefit of a premises licence since February 2017. The current premises licence reference is 23/00479/LIPRW.

 

Operated under TENs and further submissions have been provided in the additional material.

 

Cumulative Impact Zone.

 

None

 

Special Consideration Zone:

 

None

 

There is a resident count of 58

 

Representations Received

 

·       Anil Drayan – Environmental Health Services (EHS)

·       Ms Voronova

·       Susan Burbridge and Richard Cutt - Hyde Park Association

·       Elizabeth Virgo – Paddington Waterways and Maida Vale Society

·       John Zamit – South East Bayswater Residents Association

 

Issues raised by Objectors

 

1.     The removal of condition 16 and 17 may increase Public Nuisance in the area.

2.     An additional condition is considered to be insufficient to allay Environmental Health concerns.

3.     Causes the residents nuisance at night already. Delivery riders congregate around the premises playing music and shouting. Staff at the premises have no control.

4.     We need to keep the balance between business and residents.

5.     The footfall and delivery scooters will exacerbate the situation and potentially add to anti social behaviour.

6.     Nuisance, litter, noise, waking up residents when making deliveries etc will be detrimental to the area.

7.     When delivery scooters, bikes etc stop and wait for collection, they are bound to cause blocking road, especially when buses stop to discharge or pick up passengers.

8.     WCCs concerns with fast food premises operating late at night are clear from the FFP1 policy

 

Policy Considerations

 

Policy HRS 1 states:

 

B. Applications for hours outside the core hours set out  ...  view the full minutes text for item 2.

3.

Urban Doner Kebab, Ground Floor, 127 Praed Street, W2 1RL pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Ward
CIA*
SCZ
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Site Name & Address

Application
Type

Licensing Reference No.

Hyde Park

 

* None

 

** None

Urban Doner Kebab

Ground Floor

127 Praed Street

W2 1RL

 

New Premises Licence

23/02223/LIPN

*Cumulative Impact Area
** Special Consideration Zone

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

WESTMINSTER CITY COUNCIL LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE NO. 4

(“The Committee”)

 

Thursday 26 October 2023

 

          

Membership:           Councillor Angela Piddock (Chair),

Councillor Iman Less

Councillor Melvyn Caplan

 

 

Others present:       Guy Ladenburg (Counsel for the Applicant),

Sayed Hasson (The Applicant) – present online

 

Sally Fabbricatore (Environmental Health Service - EHS)

PC Tom Stewart (Metropolitan Police - MPS).

 

Richard Brown (Licensing Advice Project Citizens Advice Westminster) on behalf of:

 

1)    HPEA– Susie Burbridge.

2)    PWMVS

3)    SEBRA – John Zamit

 

Application for a New Premises Licence in respect of Urban Doner Kebab Ground Floor 127 Praed Street London W2 1RL – 23/02223/LIPN

 

                                            Full Decision

Premises: 

 

Urban Donner Kebab,

Ground Floor, 127 Praed Street,

London

W2 1RL

 

Applicant

 

Shaz Food Limited

 

Ward

 

Hyde Park

 

Summary of Application

 

This is an application for a new premises licence under the Licensing Act 2003 (“The Act”).  This application seeks to permit the premises to trade as a fast food Premises.

 

The Premises has traded under TENs.

Operated under TENs and further submissions have been provided in the additional material.

 

Cumulative Impact Zone.

 

None

 

Special Consideration Zone:

 

None

 

There is a resident count of 68

 

Application

 

To Permit:

 

Late Night Refreshment

Sunday to Thursday 23.00 to 02.00

Fridays and Saturdays 23.00 to 03.00

 

Opening Times

Sunday to Thursday 10.00 to 02.00

Fridays and Saturdays 10.00 to 03.00

 

Representations Received

 

·       PC Tom Stewart – Metropolitan Police Service

·       Sally Fabbricatore – Environmental Health Services (EHS)

·       Elizabeth Virgo – Paddington Waterways and Maida Vale Society

·       John Zamit – South East Bayswater Residents Association

·       Susan Burbridge and Richard Cutts - Hyde Park Association

·       Ms Voronova - Resident

 

Issues raised by Objectors

 

The Police have concerns in regard to the potential crime and anti-social behaviour that may be caused as a result of the provision of late night refreshment, particularly in regard to deliveries from the premises.

 

The provision of and proposed hours for Late Night Refreshment may cause an increase in Public Nuisance in the area and may impact on Public Safety.

 

The non-standard timings may cause an increase in Public Nuisance in the area.

 

These hours are well beyond core hours and stretch well into the night.

 

The application does not specify whether delivery of hot food after 11pm is sought, although there is but a single condition which refers to delivery drivers.

 

Nuisance, litter, noise, waking up residents when making deliveries etc will be detrimental to the area.

 

We cannot see any sale of takeaway food by delivery service being able to run without problems as premises are a busy thoroughfare.

 

Policy Considerations

 

Policy HRS 1 states:

 

B. Applications for hours outside the core hours set out in Clause C will be considered on their merits, subject to other relevant policies.

 

C. For the purpose of Clause B above, the Core Hours for this application as defined within this policy is:

 

Fast Food: Monday to Thursday: 10am to 11.30pm. Friday and Saturday: 10am to Midnight. Sunday: Midday to 10.30pm.

 

Sundays immediately prior to a bank holiday: Midday to Midnight

 

Policy FFP1(A) states:  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.